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nice summation of the proceedings. but what hit me hard was your profound pondering over the fate of six or was it seven blind men.

Looking forward your take on day 2.

p.s

video on paul rand not longer available.
asim
2008-09-14 09:47:12

I understand some of the corporate folk present in the audience had issues with Rajesh Dahiya's remarks about their products and methods. Rather than bristle up and attack a designer's honesty, maybe they should think about why the audience whole-heartedly agreed with Rajesh and his comments. Perhaps if they held on to their energies and thought about this, they wouldn't have a failure of a brand on their hands. Thanks Rajesh for a wonderful presentation.
Rajeev Ravindranathan
2008-09-15 15:01:02

@asim: Apart from the brilliant animation short that the films division of india gave us years ago, the elephant folk tale was first revealed to us in the form of a poem:

http://www.wordinfo.info/words/index/info/view_unit/1/?letter=B&spage=3

A variation on the story goes something like this:

six blind elephants decided to find out what humans were like. the first, after feeling around concluded that humans were rather flat. the other five agreed.
salil sojwal
2008-09-16 09:21:53

@ Rajeev

Check out the new post in reference to what happened with Dahiya
http://www.creativereview.co.uk/crblog/kyoorius-design-yatra-days-23/
 Patrick Burgoyne
2008-09-16 13:24:45

hey patrick,

kudos... put things in a far funnier manner then i did, but here's my take on the event...

http://samasmedialab.net/satellite/?p=65
Akshay
2008-09-19 16:46:36

It was quiet shocking to hear from Ashwini Deshpande of Elephant as to why their office is painted in black and white strips resembling a zebra and not an elephant. Simply because elephants don't look that nice on a buildings! Well...
raji m
2008-09-22 11:00:15

@raji.....good question....these indian design guys are just full of GAS! that is about it! they have no integrity about what they are talking or what they are doing or what they are........we indians don't lack talent we lack honesty. We think we can bullshit our way through. elephant presentation was a good example for this.
Girish
2008-09-24 07:49:30

I was shocked to hear the comments Wally made. It also was clearly a pitch to get talent and work. Indian work was dazzling though. I didnt like mdm Vyas's work. I think her work under Khan is still the best. Rajesh dahiya's work was good though he clearly got swayed by the number in audience. Harsh gave a environment evangilist streak..i wish he had collected more indian work though, but a good thought none the less.
Elephant work was amazing. I liked the fact that they showed all new four projects which were done in one year ( i hear these guys do something like 50 of similar projects in a year). Their experience and maturity shows in the scale and depth of the work. I wouldnt imagine any other indian design company to stand so proudly at that dias and show this range of work.

The husband wife team presentation was perhaps the first experience for them too and i am sure they didnt tell or show all. They are too clever to showcase all to a crowd which is mostly students and competition.

i happened to see the Baton in the evening in the park..which was passing thu goa. and with the knowledge that ashwini and ashish had presented, i felt proud to see some 30 vans painted in Youth baton event colours. the baton looked good. i was proud that someone who could do justice to work had done it.

I agree most of the time we indians bullshit (like you guys here), and try to pull down each other. We dont celebrate what we should. Thats is the reason we run to Goa to see the white skins presenting inferior work. frankly i thought Saffron work was just not it.

This was my last Designyatra. i will not miss a event where indians present their work.

Sip (relocated from UK to Hyderabad)
sip
2008-09-26 13:39:41

@sip ...cmon...yar....it is not about white skin or brown skin...it is not about indians trying to pull down each other....when you say you didn't like Vyas's work are you trying to pul her down? i am sure you are not trying to pull her down, but it is your point of view on her work.

now similarly this is my point of view on elephants work....to me the baton is very weak design and the tutari connection is very forced.....the bajaj work look like a junior college project......ameture.....

...but if you find these amazing design then all i can say is that you haven't seen anything better......but didn't you there for Paula's and Hara's presentations?
Girish
2008-09-26 15:42:47

Girish, whoever you are & whatever your claim to fame... it takes balls to start a design office in India twenty years ago and run it successfully and make it into an institution. Many summers ago, I was a lost soul and did my summer training at Elephant. My life changed after I spent time there, with the founders and especially Ashwini. They are the most honest, down to earth and ethical people you can find. They have a vision. It takes an honest person to recognize another. Maybe that is too much to expect from you. Bajaj work that you mentioned as amateur (get your spellings right man) was awesome thirty thousand square feet of buzzing space. Again, it would take a mature designer to recognize one! Baton is the only piece of product design that can be called truly Indian and I feel so proud to have been a part of Elephant. Ibelieve there is a postal stamp on baton released by Indian President this week. I feel sorry for you.
nandini
2008-10-17 06:38:30

if elephant guys are the most honest,down to earth and ethical people you can find then why is that every year only they attend the designyatra to hogg all the limelight and not send their juniors of anyone from their office, this shows how insecured they are!
raji m
2008-10-20 06:31:02

@ girish
well said,

I think others also need to take notice that we are not competing here for a essay or grammar competition as long we put ours points across and people get it there's no need to point out silly stuff like spelling mistakes.
raji m
2008-10-20 06:36:28

Thanks u r information
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2009-05-19 09:14:33

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