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Was John Pasche Asked to Join the Rolling Stones?
Posted by Patrick Burgoyne, 5 September 2008, 10:51 Permalink Comments (5)
After our post on John Pasche's design and subsequent sale of the Rolling Stones logo (above), rumours began to circulate that Pasche had been offered a place in the band and even that the Stones had bought his house for him. We have the truth...
The story, which was put out on Popbitch and repeated elsewhere went thusly:
"John Pasche, the creator and seller of the Rolling Stones' lips logo, is meant to have only received £50 for his design. Not so. That may have been the cash that exchanged at the time but there was more: a promise that if they were still going in ten years time and using the logo, John could join the band. Ten years passed but instead of letting him join (the man is SO quiet) they bought him a rather grand house in Oxshott instead where he still lives."
The tale gathered such pace that, today, Pasche tells us, he was even doorstepped by the Daily Mail.
Unfortunately, the story's not true. There was no offer of a place in the band and, although Pasche does live in Oxshott, the house wasn't bought for him by the band. In short the story "truly is a load of old tosh," Pasche told us.
He did, however, get a bit more money out of the Stones. Some years after originally designing the logo, the band paid Pasche an extra £250 to cover its use on merchandise.
Sorry to be such a killjoy...
5 Comments
That is just appalling. It's not that they can't afford to remunerate the fellow for a good job done. Pay him!
2008-09-11 14:02:52
The logo only has value attached to it via the band's success. If they were rubbish the logo would also have a rubbish value attached to it. But because they are great(in my opinion!) the logo is an internationally recognised talisman.
You can get a logo created online on e-lancer or the like for $50 now. It’s what your organisation does with it that’s important.
I think he got a fair price for a one off sale...
2008-09-11 15:15:50
I agree with David Kenyon. The 'logo' became an international brand due to the Rolling Stones, not the artist who created it. But I believe the original separated artwork was recently sold by Pasche for some $90,000 so that makes a total fee of $50 + $250 + $90,000
Not too bad... $90,300 all in. (or sterling, whatever).
2008-09-11 16:32:01
The Stones dont tip nor do they dont dip!
2008-09-11 18:51:38
I totally disagree with David Kenyon.
The Rolling Stones logo has remained in use because it is a great piece of design.
It brilliantly captures the spirit and attitude of the b(r)and it was designed to represent in a simple and highly memorable symbol.
It's a truly great piece of graphic work.
Like all good logos, it has allowed the complex entity it represents to be communicated powerfully in a fraction of a second -i.e. you see the lips & tongue on a magazine cover, you know the Rolling Stones are featured inside; see the logo on TV, you know that there's a programme on the Stones in the offing. And at the same time you are reminded of: their vulgar attitude; their vibrancy; the sexuality in their work; even the singer's features.
To say the logo has value because the Stones have value is akin to saying the Stones only have value because Mr Gibson makes such good guitars.
In truth, Mssrs Pasche, Gibson, Richards, Jagger, Jones, Wood, Wyman, Watts, Stewart, Hopkins, Loog-Oldham and their original inspirations Wolf, Muddy, Reed etc have all contributed to the enduring success of the band in a greater or lesser form.
But in terms of their proportion of remuneration, the debate will rage on forever.
But one thing is certain, if the Stones paid a total of £300 for their logo, they got one of the great bargains of the last millenium. Almost up there with the beads the American Indians got for Manhattan.
2008-09-12 11:56:43
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