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I went to this talk and met Peter briefly afterwards, was a fantastic and inspiring evening.
And a big thank you to Adrian Shaughnessy who made sure that Peter didn't go to far off the point.

I would recommend one of these evenings to anyone.
Tom Wood
2009-03-18 16:20:08

Thanks for posting these. I'd not seen or heard Peter speak before, and I enjoyed listening to his thoughts. I particularly liked the section about his inspirations, and how they're not the aesthetics of things, but how they work, and what's happening around us.
David Airey
2009-03-19 11:10:16

I saw this link and thought the same, education does not prepare you for a career in design and as Saville says why does the education system spew out 50,000 graduates? Don't get me wrong there is alot of good work around at the moment and the internet at the moment is an amazing gallery to see this talent but it is very saturated and I do wonder how everyone manages to earn a living?

http://designreviver.com/tips/10-things-they-dont-teach-you-in-design-school/
framedink
2009-03-19 13:43:18

Yes. It's true. There's a lot of work to be done with design education. In recent years I've found increasing amount of students unprepared time and time again, without any form of experience or the most basic of skills. We owe it to the students to prepare them, and education establishments owe it to us to make sure the right people with the right skills are coming out into industry.
@ framedink - your right, the market is saturated. But there's an awful lot of bloody terrible work out there too....

Interesting event. There should be more like this... maybe with an even more varied and in-depth range of talks..

Peter don't half ramble on doesn't he?
Nice chap though.


Anyway, got to get back to work and earn those de-valued pennies...
action man
2009-03-19 15:28:20

the trouble with the plinth is its not much more than a hybrid (and slightly more commercial variant) of anthony gormley’s soon-to-be trafalgar sq installation and the duchamp urinal. ie everything is art and should be celebrated as such.

and i dont think that as a concept is NEEDED or that it MATTERS

herein lies the big problem with saville,. he gives good talk. hes fascinating in fact, but somehow, the surface persona, the great talk, the lucid insights he claims to be having, the bragging, the slightly cringy i told you sos, the futurology.. those big ideas arent really there in his work, or at least get lost somewhere in the process. i imagine this great mind turning ideas over and over in his head and a despair there, as each idea is over thought and dismissed for not being obvious enough, important enough, original enough..a rabbit caught in the glare of himself.

and that is what also makes him one of the most original practitioners who wont work for cash alone. someone whose integrity to himself has done him enormous professional diservices.
dadif
2009-03-19 17:49:52

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7953777.stm

This is what is wrong with design education!
annon
2009-03-19 20:58:21

If you think the Plinth is a piece of pointless sculpture it pales into significance in the "we have to have our own Angel Of The North" category for local authorities obsession with public art.........or the keeping up with the Geordies cliché, then check out “The Dream” to be located in St Helens on the site of the old Sutton Colliery!

The problem is it looks like a mannequins head and yet again a major Merseyside sculpture has been commissioned at the cost of 1.3million to local tax payers, The Dream is the work of Jaume Plensa from Barcelona, The Super Lamb Banana was the work of a Japanese artist (which is now loved in Liverpool), but why do local artists not get a chance to submit and then work with local industry to produce a piece of public art (not necessarily a sculpture)?

The Dream, is meant to be the gateway to Merseyside and is on a prominent hill on the M62, it is just a shame that they never had the vision to work with the rest of the northwest i.e. Liverpool and Manchester if it was for the region or if it is a Merseyside thing why was there never any advertisement for local artists to submit!

http://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/news/3801462.Dream_turning_into_reality/

Programme on channel four following the project:
http://www.bigartsthelens.com/big-art-sthelens-sutton-manor/

As a creative person It sounds like I’m missing the point or sour grapes but this seems like landmark sculpture for the sake of it, abstract solely to attract attention, it’s the wrong type of attention and I give it 1 week before Banksy paints a moustache and a monocle on it!
framedink
2009-03-19 21:43:32

It's nice to hear, and important to stare hard at what we have and what we're asked to do, make, and produce.
Unfortunately, a lot of what we do is restricted by time (or rather money - our time has to be bought back by us from those who already have it ...mortgage providers,landlords, service providers, retailers etc) We have to be especially good at what we do, to command the respect, and the fees, to buy the time to do what we do properly, and in a contemplative way.
So balk not at the 50,000 graduates per annum. Many will sing like cats, and only ever to themselves. A few, as was always the case, will sing like angels, and we will beg them to take us with them.
Willie Ryan
2009-03-20 14:33:22

That voice could only be adrian shaughnessy, does a great job at interviewing fellow designers.
Youssef Sarhan
2009-03-20 18:54:33

Great video! Awesome to hear from an inspiring designer.
Alex Lee
2011-06-15 18:14:01

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