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CR's incredible dissolving bag

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Posted by Creative Review, 22 October 2009, 10:24    Permalink    Comments (104)

Newsstand copies of the November issue of CR come in a revolutionary new bag that simply dissolves in hot water. No waste. No landfill.

Anyone buying their copy of CR on the newsstand this month will find that the issue comes in a transparent bag bearing the words 'This bag dissolves in water'. And it does.

We are the first magazine anywhere to trial a new packaging material called harmless-dissolve which was created in the UK by Cyberpac. Here's what you do:

1, Take the magazine out of the bag

 

2, Cut off the sealing strip - the glue of the strip is biodegradeable but will not dissolve in water

 

3, Place the bag in a receptacle filled with hot water (60+ degrees recommended by manufacturer)

 

The clear plastic dissolves into the water almost immediately

 

The printed area takes a little longer to break down - here's ours after about a minute

After a couple of minutes, the printed area has broken down sufficiently for it to disintegrate when rubbed between finger and thumb – it's a bit gunky and sticky but washes off straightaway

 

4, Pour the residue down the drain

We are assured that any residue is perfectly harmless. Apparently you can even drink it - we tried, it tastes horrible, so we wouldn't recommend this.

A quick sluice around with water clears up any remaining residue both in the sink and in the receptacle.

CR is working with Cyberpac on a range of experimental packaging solutions. Subscribers received our September issue in an envelope that could be re-used as a binder for our Monograph series (see here), while in October we gave subscribers one of six static prints of images from the Photography Annual (see here).

Why do a bag at all? We needed to bag this month's issue on the newsstand because it contains a free CMYK colour guide from Heidelberg. Rather than using a traditional polybag, we tried this.

Subscriber issues come in regular, non-dissolvable, packaging this month - next month, though, we have something special for you.

UPDATE

More details from Cyberpac on how it works, also in the comments below: "The hot water is just to show you the biodegradability at speed. You don't need to boil it, just chuck it on the compost heap! We use this to package fish food as it dissolves in the water releasing the bait.

"Harmless-Dissolve is made from a hydro-degradable substrate which is 5 times stronger than normal polythene. It is a readily biodegradable, water soluble polymer which completely biodegrades in a composting environment, in a dishwasher or in a washing machine. It has no harmful residues and will biodegrade into naturally occuring substances - the bugs love it.

"It's non-toxic and is degraded by micro-organisms, moulds and yeasts. These organisms can occur in both artificial environments, such as anaerobic digesters, activated sewage sludge and composts and natural environments such as aquatic systems and soil. The micro-organisms use Harmless-Dissolve as a food source by producing a variety of enzymes that are capable of reacting with it. In the end the bag becomes carbon dioxide, water and biomass." More here

If you'd like to know more about harmless-dissolve, please contact Will Anderson at Cyberpac, willanderson@cyberpac.co.uk

 

104 Comments

Wow. Nice package
Most Interesting Ideas
2009-10-22 12:19:27


Won't the magazine get wet?
Julian
2009-10-22 12:22:41


Couldn't you buy toys in the 90s which the packaging melted in water?
Edward Hann
2009-10-22 12:38:13


How could you do something like this? Have you not read Mutant 59: The Plastic Eaters?
Timbo
2009-10-22 12:59:38


Dear Sir,

I spotted a solecism or typographical error in this most edifying of articles: "If you'd like to no more about harmless-dissolve"

Just so you KNOW.

Yours, etc.

Dr. Thropplenoggin
Thropplenoggin
2009-10-22 13:07:25


@ Dr Thropplenoggin
Ooops, yes, thanks for that. Changed now
CR PatrickBurgoyne
2009-10-22 13:10:51


Why not add a perf to the top of the bag so you don't have to bother finding the scissors to cut off the glue strip?
Matt
2009-10-22 13:47:53


Would it not be a better option simply not to have a plastic bag at all? As much as it is very creative idea and great that it would reduce waste/landfill. Do magazines really need to be a plastic bag? Would be better put to use on food packaging for instance.
Stephen
2009-10-22 13:48:55


@Matt
A perf would have added considerably to the cost - if you really can't be bothered find a pair of scissors, you can always tear that bit off

@Stephen
As it says in the text (ahem), we needed to bag the issue because, on the newsstand, it also comes with a separate book. Subs copies always need to be packaged in some way in order to go through the mail. I'm sure Cyberpac will be investigating other uses for their invention, this is the first time it has been used anywhere
CR PatrickBurgoyne
2009-10-22 14:01:04


bravo
ruthersish
2009-10-22 14:02:45


ooops… didn't read that bit. was clearly too busy looking at the images (ahem).
well done!
Stephen
2009-10-22 14:11:31


So, what happens if i'm making my way home in the typically british weather and it starts to rain?

For arguments sake, i'm in shorts and t-shirt (weather was nice when I set off that morning!) with nowhere to hide the magazine, my rucksack is also broken and left at home, and the shop where I purchased the magazine is all out of plastic bags!

But apart from that scenario, looks good!
Aem
2009-10-22 14:40:22


@Aem



If you read the text (ahem, ahem) you will see that the water needs to be at least 60 degrees in order for the bag to dissolve quickly, ie it has to be HOT.
CR PatrickBurgoyne
2009-10-22 14:58:00


Novel idea but Stephen makes a valid point. Do away with the bag altogether and save on production costs and hot water.
Roy
2009-10-22 15:20:22


@ Roy

As I explained to Stephen (see above) and in the text, the issue had to go out bagged as, on the newsstand, it comes with a book as well. Subs issues always need a bag of some sort in order to be mailed (bangs head repeatedly against wall...)
CR PatrickBurgoyne
2009-10-22 15:26:30


Yes...but would you want to drink that water/bag mix you just poured down the drain?

You just added to the shortage of clean drinking water.
todd
2009-10-22 15:33:18


Great concept! I always appreciate the creative touches added to CR packaging & like everything it gives people something else to complain about even before they read the text!
Radar
2009-10-22 16:30:30


If this takes off won't everyone have to boil their kettle every time they buy a magazine? using lots of energy yes?
fatboy
2009-10-22 16:30:55


@ fatboy



No, it just has to be hot, not boiling. We used water from the drinks machine. Not sure what the minimum effective temperature is - we will experiment



You could use the water left over from the next time you make a cup of tea (it doesn't take much), do the washing up etc
CR PatrickBurgoyne
2009-10-22 16:35:00


Ok, some good comments but some have missed the point. The hot water is just to show you the biodegradability at speed. You dont need to boil it, just chuck it on the compost heap! We use this to package fish food as it dissolves in the water releasing the bait.



Here's the detail:



Harmless-Dissolve is made from a hydro-degradable substrate which is 2.5 times stronger than normal polythene. It is a readily biodegradable, water soluble polymer which completely biodegrades in a composting environment, in a dishwasher or in a washing machine. It has no harmful residues and will biodegrade into naturally occuring substances - the bugs love it.



Want more then read on:



Harmless-Dissolve is non-toxic and is degraded by micro-organisms, moulds and yeasts. These organisms can occur in both artificial environments, such as anaerobic digesters, activated sewage sludge and composts and natural environments such as aquatic systems and soil. The micro-organisms use Harmless-Dissolve as a food source by producing a variety of enzymes that are capable of reacting with it. In the end the bag becomes carbon dioxide, water and biomass.



Have a look at http://www.harmlesspackaging.co.uk



Will
Will Anderson
2009-10-22 17:10:00


i'm really impressed. this looks brilliant and glad you're willing to investigate and implement different, better ways of doing things.

also utterly bemused at the jellyheads who can't be bothered to read the article, but CAN be bothered to post critical comments, for what it's worth, patrick & co!
clara_bow
2009-10-22 17:38:58


Hey,
I am from Brazil and write for an ecology network of blogs.
Can I use your material here?
It's an impressive and great innovation. Congratulations.
Lucia Freitas
2009-10-22 20:15:37


Nice, so long as the postie doesn't go for a sauna!
Charlie
2009-10-22 20:27:07


@ Lucia

Sure, feel free. Please link back to us though
CR PatrickBurgoyne
2009-10-22 20:34:46


Maybe the leftovers wouldn't taste so bad if it was used in a martini. Could you guys confirm this? Thanks!

Very inventive. Keep it up.
Lee
2009-10-23 00:17:35


Bloody brilliant, they should start replacing all that plastic crap with this material. Really. I'm sure it costs more to manufacture, but damn, it's just so coooooool!
Joy
2009-10-23 05:02:00


Ahhh, Will's post explains a lot more, I was thinking - really great product and great of CR to give us our own prototype, but I don't want to be boiling pots of water and putting bags in it every time I buy a magazine. How does the price compare to the normal stuff? Is this what some of the dish washer tabs come packaged in?

Fantastic product, I look forward to seeing it used more often!
Alexa
2009-10-23 09:13:59


Great idea but us subscribers get a 'normal' bag?
Richard
2009-10-23 09:23:28


Tell me again why you need the plastic wrapping... j/k
Great idea guys. Let's just hope companies like Tesco can use it as well
Kit
2009-10-23 10:30:16


Always love the way you guys look to improve and innovate on both the covers (and no covers with the green issue). Good work, keep it up!
Ashley Pollak
2009-10-23 13:21:49


Er... Why have the plastic bag in the first place? Presumably because the magazine is full of Direct Mail (paper spam) items that would otherwise spill out. In my house these all go straight into the bin and then on to... Landfill!
Rick
2009-10-23 14:22:35


Er... "We are assured that any residue is perfectly harmless" Assured by whom? The bag manufacturer?
Rick
2009-10-23 14:25:40


What a good idea! If only others would follow your lead
Lee Faber
2009-10-23 15:18:07


I assume us subscribers didn't get the boil in the bag version, as by the time the postie delivered it in the current torrential rain there would be nowt left
Kevin
2009-10-23 15:22:54


clara_bow, I agree. If your going to criticise you might as well read what your criticising first! Numpties.
Kitty
2009-10-23 15:50:55


Mad props, if it is completely disposable and bio friendly.... HOWEVER why not just put the print/design on the magazine cover? and avoid the sludge on the bag? Keep it simple and save everyone guck and time.

PEACE and love, V
victoria Nam
2009-10-23 16:56:22


Didnt someone come up with a corn/starch based plastic film that could be used on microwave meals? It worked, was totally degradable but hasn't flooded the market with sensible progress in packaging. Alas, profit over progress and unless 'someone big' does go for it, this great idea will end up on the enormous scrap heap of sensible ideas along with all the other innovative inventions. boo hoo.
ALQ
2009-10-23 17:14:37


This is really awesome, and the residue that is the melted plastic isn't harmful to the environment? I'm sure it's a secret, but I really wish to know what the bag is made of.

Everyone here is being a little short-sighted. An invention like this is valuable, in any sort of plastic bag revolutuion. To talk about it being wasteful to put it on a magazine is a little tedious. I think this would be ideal for almost all types of product plastics, as long as it was not harmful, say to food products, and able to keep said products air tight as needed.

The waste reduction of this though, in particular, is rather awesome. I'd love to learn more about it. Thanks for sharing.
Candace
2009-10-23 18:16:22


Just read more closely and saw the info about what it's made of thanks for that!!! Sorry :) I need to read closer like most of these people.
Candace
2009-10-23 18:19:27


yes, PVA has been used for years in various ways, how come this has taken so long for people to catch on!
Nick
2009-10-23 19:41:53


YES! Design will change the world...great start!
melissa murray
2009-10-23 20:13:06


But what is it made out of? The company says it is "a hydro-degradable substrate which is 5 times stronger than normal polythene. It is a readily biodegradable, water soluble polymer which completely biodegrades in a composting environment, in a dishwasher or in a washing machine. It has no harmful residues and will biodegrade into naturally occuring substances - the bugs love it."

This does not tell us what it's made out of. It's a description prepared by the manufacturer. I want to know what chemicals are in the plastic in the first place. Is it a petroleum-based polymer? Have independent tests been done (not by the msnufacturer?) Are there invisible plastic molecules left after the visible material breaks down? What chemicals have been added to the plastic to cause it to break down?

What I don't understand is why so many writers are willing to take a manufacturer at its word without digging deeper. I realize I could check the company's web site to find out more (if indeed they have published this information.) But I feel like if your publlishing company is promoting this material, you ought to let the public know the full details of the ingredients of the plastic.

And this completely bypasses the issue of the affect of paper magazines on the environment in the first place. And plastic needed to protect inserts, like another commenter mentioned, should be unnecessary. Customers should be able to opt in for inserts, many of which simply are thrown away immediately.
Beth Terry
2009-10-23 20:30:22


Great idea!!!! Hope they find more uses for this kind of bag..
Elena
2009-10-23 20:48:36


http://www.projectgreenbag.com
Project GreenBag
2009-10-23 20:54:44


I agree with the positive feedback/responses. Any innovation that will help planet Earth is worth trying. Very interesting concept, a dissolving plastic bag. I wish and pray that it will spread to other areas, not necessarily dissolving plastic bags but other things that will save this planet for the future generations.

Thanks!
Bill
2009-10-23 20:57:28


Bagging magazines is a relatively recent invention, and not all magazines come in bags. It is the postal system that needs changing! I am assuming that the product that dissolves is made from corn or a similar vegetable product. As a consuming population we need to take a look at the impact 'from cradle to cradle.' Yes, at one end it is not going into the landfill, but there is an impact in the use of resources in growing and manufacturing the bag, which may even involve pesticides, herbiscides and of course the most valuable of resources - water. Let's pay attention to the carbon footprint of the bag from begining to end and then figure out a way not to use it at all.
Susan Hedin
2009-10-23 21:50:09


I dissolved the bag last night. Incredible.
I started it in a bowl of lukewarm water and you can slowly feel the texture changing, almost thinning out.
Then poured boiled water in top and remaining bag dissolved in from of my eyes. Very impressive — but I don't think CR needs to be bagged (even if its biodegradable) in the future.
Tom Muller
2009-10-24 11:59:48


Id love to tell you what I think, however I still havent recived my subscribers Issue yet, I guess its stuck in the post.

Rob
Robbie1123
2009-10-24 13:36:39


@Rob
It's only newsstand copies that have the bag this month I'm afraid - we needed to bag them this month as they come with the colour guide (see main text). We'll have something special for subs next month and all the ones after that, through until May, I hope
CR PatrickBurgoyne
2009-10-24 14:38:18


This product is almost as impressive as the number of people commenting who repeatedly raise issues and questions already addressed!
Timothy
2009-10-24 20:03:15


Amazing, just what the world needs
Janet
2009-10-25 00:44:42


Impressive invention.

But still not convinced about the need to bag the magazine. Can't they be stapled/glued to the back cover of main magazine, ie if the extras are not too heavy. Else if they are of the same size/wt etc, can't they both be tied together with jute thread, or stuck together with a strip of paper with glue on one side?

anyway,this is useful in many other cases.
Jason
2009-10-25 03:40:12


Thank you all for these great comments, keep them coming. I particularly enjoyed Susan Hedin's who is right to challenge the 'face value' and ask a holistic question about the impact of Harmless Packaging on the complete supply chain. It is this question that led to the development of Harmless Packaging as I believe it is important that we tackle some of the apathy towards better environmental packaging solutions. And you know, what is comforting is that there are plenty of people and industries keen to get involved.

To qualify each of the Harmless products here would take too long so I suggest a phone call to us at Cyberpac: 01473 836225. Harmless-Dissolve is not made from Corn or Potato starch, it is something very different and importantly leaves NO HARMFUL RESIDUES during or after degradation - it is that good.

Look forward to hearing from you.

Will Anderson.
MD Cyberpac
+44 (0) 1473 836225
Will Anderson
2009-10-25 20:29:50


This is a great idea! I am going to buy an issue just to try out the bag!
Cathy Mason
2009-10-26 00:18:26


I just spent the last five minutes in our office kitchen waiting for it to dissolve (at the tweet promised) however, i come on here and read the article to realise it's not going to dissolve.

Great idea, but what a con!
Caroline
2009-10-26 12:55:09


The fact that there are people out there desperately trying to find ways to reduce our waste is reassuring. Shoppers could do a hell of a lot more by dumping the vast quantities of excessive packaging on the shop floors (so to speak) instead of meekly taking it all home. Whilst the dissolvable bag is a great idea, it is the ultimate left-overs that worry me: aren't we precisely trying to REDUCE production of carbon dioxide? Should we be warming the planet just to dissolve packaging? And if it has such a horrible taste, what will the fish think of it when it starts appearing in the rivers in vast quantities? Do they want to be swimming around in this stuff, even if the 'bugs' supposedly love it? Just curious...
Margi
2009-10-26 18:37:32


It's nice, but is not that a little pollution anyway
Et Si
2009-10-27 17:01:45


It's possible to package garbage with this kind of polymere? How long it takes to dissolve with umidity? We can produce less garbage, but yet, we need to package the garbage...
Lourdes
2009-10-28 03:48:13


Shame my subscribed polly wraped CR didn't dissolve...I got all excited when reading this artical.
Matt
2009-10-28 09:41:10


Hi, congratulation for the Idea and for the product. But I got some questions. First I wanted to know about the ink used on the plastic. What is it made of? Regular ink? How does it impact the environment? I also wanted to know more about the material. I can´t call you because I live in Brazil and a phone call is pretty expensive, so if you could send me the in formations by e-mail, I’ll be grateful.

Thanks and well done.
Clara Correa
2009-10-28 09:47:54


@Clara
Thanks for the comment. There's some more detailed information on the material at Cyberpac's website, here:
http://www.harmlesspackaging.co.uk/harmless-106-harmless-dissolve.html

But I'll pass on your query (and email) to Will at Cyberpac too and he should be able to help you with further information.
CR Mark Sinclair
2009-10-28 09:52:07


Clara, Lourdes - let me answer your questions here.

Packaging garbage is an excellent use for Harmless-Dissolve. It will compost by 90% in 50 days but of course will compost or dissolve much quicker with more or warmer water. It is up to 3 times stronger than polythene so will carry the weight too.

The inks used are liquid, non solvent biodegradable inks which conform to EN13432 compostability standard and therefore has no impact on the environment. The material is a hydro-degradable polymer and with the inks and biodegradable peel and seal lip, the envelope is an industry first. CR have really pushed the boundaries here.

Please feel free to e mail direct willanderson@cyberpac.co.uk

Thank you.
Will Anderson
2009-10-28 10:21:36


Thank you, Will!
Clara Correa
2009-10-28 10:53:43


So does the harmless packaging bag have any certifications that guarantees its safely degrading?
Heeral
2009-11-02 15:03:55


I think this is a brilliant idea!!! I would like to know, however, how soon does it start to dissolve. The biggest advantage plastics have is impenetrability especially when it comes to liquids. If this magazine were to get wet in the rain would it still be safe? If not water, what other elements would this bag be protecting against that paper bags/envelopes might not be able to do equally well?
If the water is cold and not hot as used for the demonstration, what is the window of safety that we can depend on?
But still, I'm happy that there is such wonderful research heading in the right direction! I hope it finds huge successes!!! :)
Aditi
2009-11-04 06:26:24


amazing
Samantha
2009-11-05 20:24:49


Whilst I appreciate your efforts to reduce your environmental impact, a better solution would be for CR readers to switch to a green electricity provider (e.g. Ecotricity, Good Energy, or Green Energy in the UK), and to then read the magazine online. Some publishers have already ceased to produce a print edition and now offer online subscriptions only and I think this will become more commonplace in future.
aerostace
2009-11-10 18:20:52


How about using it in conjunction with a grey water system (hot shower water waste particularly). This way you are not using extra water to dissolve the plastic.
Andrew
2009-11-30 22:40:10


Excellent! My application? Dry "Crappiers"! to save water in Arid areas and for the folks in California who salt fields for lack of water! Imagine a bag like this with a good vapor proof seal! Catch old Tobey in the bag, with the wipe up stuff, seal and ship to the bio-gas works, there to be dissolved and turned into consumer gas and good safe top-soil improving fertilizer sludge - no polluted water-ways, no wasted drinking grade water used! Home grown gas for fuel, fields watered with extra water conserved, fields fertilized too! and a win! win! win! all around the board! all for Shiite!
Uncle B
2009-11-30 23:43:32


Nice so now instead of the plastic rotting in piles, the plastic can get into the bodies of fish and poison and kill them instead.
Sabrina
2009-12-01 02:43:35


Sp you have to heat up water to melt the bag?! seems like a waste of energy to me.
The best way to preserve the planet is to consume less entirely. But no one wants to bring that up because it hurts capitalism.
Harry up and produce for reduced cost and then hurry up and buy for the most profit, consume and waste. This is what is hurting the planet and wasting energy!
jpax
2009-12-01 20:33:47


Sabrina, jpax - why so cynical. Harmless (clue in the title) Packaging is. It biodegrades non-toxically into non-toxic waste - I have drunk it. You don't need to use water to biodegrade this product, that was for demonstration purposes. Harmless Dissolve is so strong you need less of it so you consume less - as your rant suggests. We (and many others) are trying jpax, we are not all vicious capitalists!

Will
Will Anderson
2009-12-02 12:01:34


So how the heck are they going to apply it for products which require resistant for water?
I think that we are still forced to useplastic bags
kith7
2009-12-02 23:05:50


It sounds great! I would take it and use it as a poo bag too! Pick up the poo... take it to a compost and voila! Once the water touches it, it will disolve. Great!
Ivy
2009-12-03 01:44:28


If all of our plastic packaging got replaced by 'harmless bio-friendly' plastic packaging that dissolves in water, we'd have a massive pollution problem on our hands within a year.
Tim
2009-12-10 09:55:03


If all of our plastic packaging got replaced by 'harmless bio-friendly' plastic packaging that dissolves in water, we'd have a massive pollution problem on our hands within a year.
Tim
2009-12-10 09:59:43


Apparently some folks get it and some folks don't. See the video below (I'll try to embed the code - if that doesn't work, just click on the link):



http://www.viddler.com/explore/butchgibson/videos/125/
Butch Gibson
2010-01-18 19:21:30


A solution to pour things down the drain seems to go against everything we've learned through the first "green revolution". How someone can think its a good idea to remove something from landfill and place it into a even more fragile environment - aquatic system - is a bit confounding. Simply transfer of environmental burden from one area to another should not be considered innovation. Real innovation should aim to completely remove environmental burdens or at least be net neutral.
Beetle
2010-02-08 15:23:14


Clearly there are SO MANY PEOPLE who do not READ THE ARTICLES and do not read THE ANSWERS ALREADY GIVEN - that if we simply shot them all there would be very few people left in the world - thus greatly reducing the burden on the global environment!

We should, of course, use biodegradable bullets.

Once again for the thick:

The product dissolves VERY SLOWLY in cold water (so rain is not a problem) and INSTANTLY in hot water (for demonstration purposes only) - just put it in a compost bin and forget it!

The residue in the water is HARMLESS (unless they are lying)

And anyway - ANYTHING would be better than the millions of poly bags and packets which lie in the ground for EVER.
Jim
2010-02-10 10:54:22


Unbelievable! I'm with you Jim. Biodegradable bullets seems to be the answer for some...that would clean up the planet in itself.
Will, keep up the good work. Fabulous and I'm getting the facts and can't wait to put it in my compost bin. Dare I ask how many who had negative comments have a compost pile/bin???? Ahem! R-H
Robin
2010-02-18 00:01:12


Couldn't you buy toys in the 90s which the packaging melted in water?
oyunlar
2010-03-05 00:45:20


Can I buy some shares in your company?

This is a fantastic idea. Can you use the plastic for other purposes like shopping bags, food packaging etc? I wouldn't care if it cost more, I would buy it on principle
Paddy McCaughan
2010-03-09 19:03:38


Please help me find dissolving bags in stores of Brooklyn, NY. I need them for my lesson in Saturday School. Please let me know where could they be!
Inna Groysman
2010-03-12 06:08:58


preserve the planet is to consume less entirely. But no one wants to bring that up because it hurts capitalism.
siirt
2010-03-21 10:21:25


I find it utterly incredible that whenever someone spends time and effort to come up with a product that will do more good than bad for the planet, the snipers are never far away. Yes, we have to consider all angles of a ''new'' product but, for it to be immediately dismissed by some people is wrong.

If I had the option of safely disolving the plastic bags that I use every day, I for one, would sleep better knowing that I was at least scratching the surface of the environmental dilema this planet is facing. Maybe, just maybe, if we embraced the advances in technology, we would take a step closer to finding the ultimate solution. We, as a race, should welcome these inovations and look at how we can use them to thier fullest potential.

To the person/s who developed this product, thank you. Please don't let the doubters knock you and keep up the good work. I truly hope that the global brand companies see the potential and put progress before profits for once.

Ron
Scotland
Ron Christie
2010-04-05 11:33:16


Seriously though Ron, what do you think happens to the water system when 400,000 'harmless' biodegradable vegeplastic bags are dissolved into it every month? There is no answer to this problem, there is only the shifting of the problem away from the known adversity to a currently unknown adversity. Its the same with the great search for an alternative to fossil fuels. Look at the devastation already being caused by vegetable-based fuel alternatives. The vast plains of land being cleared and depleted of nutrients and diversity in order to grow bio-fuel to lower our reliance on fossil fuel is reeking far greater devastation than the fossil fuels we worry about today. Likewise, creating less harmful plastic bags that can be washed down the plug hole is merely shifting the problem from the commonly known "harmful effects of resilient plastics" to the uncommonly known effects of "byproduct saturation of the water system".

The answer is less plastic bags, less consumption. There is no magic cure for modern consumption that allows it to continue. I don't care how harmless the product is.

Its a great invention, and used responsibly it will no doubt be better than conventional plastics, but as a mass market item its not an answer.
tim Spencer
2010-04-06 12:43:44


If all of our plastic packaging got replaced by 'harmless bio-friendly' plastic packaging that dissolves in water, we'd have a massive pollution problem on our hands within a year.
en yeni oyunlar
2010-04-29 15:29:15


Hi It sounds a great idea but what about the cost implications???



Andy Farquharson
Andy Farquharson
2010-05-14 12:59:00


How much more does it cost than a normal poly bag? thats usually this sticking point, people think its a good idea until they have to pay for it....i would be interested to know the true costs.
Vicki
2010-05-19 12:25:24


obviously alot more judging by the response from the manufacturer ! I knew there would be a down side to it.. why is it all the good ideas litteraly cost the earth?.
vicki
2010-05-27 10:25:36


Thank's very good.
cam balkon
2010-06-02 09:44:03


Just read more closely and saw the info about what it's made of thanks for that!!! Sorry :) I need to read closer like most of these people. thanks creative review
indir
2010-06-06 15:54:00


What a great idea and the residual product couldn't be as bad as the dispersents in the Gulf, could it?
Levi
2010-06-07 12:45:50


Love love love it. I wouldn't have been able to have kept quiet about this whilst it was in trial! One step closer to saving the planet.
Victoria Archer
2010-06-07 15:38:47


have kept quiet about this whilst it was in trial! One step closer to saving the planet.
film izle
2010-06-11 21:34:03


what if it's raining when i have it outdoor
Roy
2010-06-23 04:51:52


Many companies have produced biodegradable utensils. Ecological plates are made from sugar can and reed pulp. Their producers insist on the fact that they are non-toxic, biodegradable, but at the same time they offer the client the same quality of a normal plate. Cornstarch, grass fibers and wood are two other materials used for the manufacture of biodegradable utensils and biodegradable cornstarch bags.
Collins Pt.
2010-07-29 13:35:58


If all of our plastic packaging got replaced by 'harmless bio-friendly' plastic packaging that dissolves in water, we'd have a massive pollution problem on our hands within a year.
hayata dair
2010-08-16 18:26:40


CAN SOMEONE TELL ME THE COSTS? ITS ALL DOWN TO COST IN THE END I BET ITS TRIPLE OR DOUBLE.
Beryl
2010-08-18 15:01:45


This is a great idea! I am going to buy an issue just to try out the bag!

Spelletjes
2010-10-07 01:59:00


The answer is less plastics bags, less consumption. There is no magic cure for modern consumption that allows it to continue. I don't care hown harmless the product is.
Masal Dinle
2010-10-15 00:16:00


Awesome! Now how do you make it?
LA
2010-11-29 19:01:07


hi i am doing a school project on ocean pollution. we have to make a difference in the community. I was just wondering if you knew exactly how much these bags cost and if they could be used as a grocery bag sort of thing to hold the fruit and veggies you usually put in the small plastic bags. I was also wondering exactly how big they are. Thank you so much
morgan d
2013-04-14 20:31:16


How do we order? And how much?
Nathaniel Boyer
2013-05-13 06:13:49


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