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Super Super: Like Nothing and Everything

Patrick 22/08/07, 15:01

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Spread from Super Super, April 2007. Co-founder, Namalee, is pictured right

“People said ‘what the fuck is that? It looks like a clown’s been sick’.” Not necessarily the response you might hope for when launching a new style magazine, but it didn’t worry Steve Slocombe. As creative director of the fiercely trendy Super Super, Slocombe is used to being, shall we say, “challenged” about his work…

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Cover of the current issue of Super Super

Launched early last year, Super Super’s wilfully distorted typography, day glo colours and total rejection of the holy tenets of magazine design are enough to give more mature art directors a fit of the vapours. It’s MySpace made flesh, with all the clashing cacophony that concept brings to mind.

And yet, according to Slocombe, what underlines it all is “harmony”. “There is nothing in Super Super that is empty or frivolous,” he insists, “everything is there for a reason”.

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Slocombe says that this spread, 24 hours with drag queen Jodie Harsh, epitomises his approach.

When it comes to style magazines, Slocombe has form, having previously been editor of Sleazenation. “I took Sleazenation to be one of the top four style magazines, but it was always going to be fourth on that list,” he says, recognising the strength of competitors i-D, Dazed and Confused and, at the time, The Face. “I could see a new generation with a new sensibility coming up so I thought, rather than be fourth, let’s get on this new thing and be first.”

A sign of what was to come came with Slocombe’s last issue at Sleazenation (May 2003). The publishers were away so he took the opportunity to introduce the freeform approach that Super Super has taken to such troubling extremes. He got the sack and went on to open a shop in Brixton with Namalee, former style editor at Sleazenation. The pair launched a magazine, Super Blow, out of which, 18 months ago, came Super Super.

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Cover of the first issue of Super Super, Feb 2006

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Feb 2001 issue of Sleazenation, which Slocombe edited along with Stuart Turnbull. Scott King was creative director

Slocombe cites Scott King, with whom he worked at Sleazenation, as an influence on his design (particularly in “saying what you have to say efficiently”). However, the approach that King took at the magazine was deemed unsuitable for the new title. “At Sleaze, Scott wanted to do it in a book-ish style, but this new generation doesn’t read books so that’s not a relevant reference for them. This is the ADD generation. You have just one chance, one shot. Every time they open the magazine they have to get it.”

It was a period working for photographer Wolfgang Tillmans that most influenced Slocombe’s approach. A Fine Art graduate from St Martins, Slocombe’s role included helping Tillmans install his shows – a process that was, in itself, an artistic exercise. “We’d get a plan of the space and we’d turn up with work in all kinds of different sizes and respond to the space, arranging the work accordingly: it was an organic process about what work would sit best in certain situations,” he explains.

This, then, is the approach that he brings to designing Super Super. There is no predefined grid: Slocombe starts with the images (which may or may not be in focus) and arranges them so as to maximise the space, just as he and Tillmans would on the gallery wall. There are some rules: copy is set in blocks either 90mm or 40mm wide, at 10 point on 12 point leading or eight on 10, using either Helvetica or Times. But word and image rarely line up: “Things feel a lot more human if they are a fraction out,” Slocombe claims, “it’s about a sense of harmony and rhythm”. It’s what sets Super Super apart: “Magazines had become very machine like, very impersonal. Super Super is very human. It speaks to the reader very directly, removes the barriers. The values of the magazine are to be fun, to be positive, to say ‘have a go, you can do this’.”

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April 07 cover

While other magazines may seek to manipulate pace by contrasting full-bleed images with more detailed spreads, Super Super tries to cram in as much as possible onto every available inch of space. The reason, according to Slocombe, goes back to its readers’ alarmingly short attention spans. Typically aged between 14 and 24, they cannot be guaranteed to look at more than one spread in any particular issue, he claims, so each one has to embody all the values of the magazine. This, he would have us believe, is a generation with a different aesthetic value system. “In the Wallpaper* era, white was seen as expensive, but the young generation now think that if something has lots of colours, it must be more expensive. That,” he says “sums up the shift quite nicely.”

The magazine is not, Slocombe insists, anti-design. “That whole argument that you have to be either a follower of David Carson or of the Swiss School is not the debate we have now – I’ll take the best of both and anything else that’s around. The old way of things was movement followed by anti-movement, now the culture swallows the past and moves on instead of defining itself against what has gone before,” he argues. “I’m not against what has gone before, I just think this is more appropriate for here and now. At the core of the Swiss ideal is efficient communication – well, this is the most appropriate way to communicate to our audience.”

Wouldn’t it be more appropriate to communicate to them online? Or via their omnipresent mobile phones? “We know about print, Slocombe says, “and it’s much easier to make something feel human in print.”

Slocombe seems amused by the extreme reactions his magazine provokes. “I don’t deliberately set out to shock, I want people to say ‘Wow! It’s great’. It’s not meant to be anti-anything. People think it’s thrown together or anti-design, it really isn’t. It could be done entirely in black and white and it would still be recognisable as Super Super.” And what would that be? “Like nothing and everything you have ever seen before.”

See the September issue of CR, out 23 August, for further discussion of Super Super and others in our feature,
The New Ugly

Comments(83 comments)

Oh! I had not realised the magazine was intended for the 14-24. I’m 30, love Super Super, and appreciate all the details Slocombe describes in the article above. It’s a rare and refreshing alternative in the array of magazines on offer today. I find that the content of Super Super has the potential to reach a wide audience, whether they recognise themselves in the style of the magazine or not. One has to be bored with life to not be enlightened with this much color!

Posted by JCR on 22/08/07, 5:20 pm

isnt it made by cheap students who cant use photoshop properly? looks like national enquirer but with bad taste. and z list celebrities.

Posted by shoreditch twat on 22/08/07, 5:34 pm

I like Super Super very much! It remembers me to the magazines I used to read when I was a teenager but much more clever, funny and cool!
I think they got a very personal style and the best think: it’s not pretentious!!

I wish I could buy it in Barcelona :(

Posted by cira on 22/08/07, 5:38 pm

The fact that the target audience is mainly 14-24 doesn’t mean nobody else can read it. I like Super Super, but the fact is that the mish-mash collage look of it is only appealing because no other publication looks like that, and it’s different. It also reflects the mood of the writing, and what it’s about. It’s about partying and music and exclamation marks, and it’s fun.

Posted by Tom OMG on 22/08/07, 5:46 pm

SuperSuper is the number 1 magazine for cutting edge fashion to me! I’m from southern California so it must be doing pretty well for itself if it appeals to someone all the way over here. lol. I love it! It makes me feel like a kid again! I’m so in love with it I don’t mind paying to have it shipped from the UK. I can’t think of any other magazine like it in LA. It reminds me of a combo of Fruits circa 95-03 and a redo of the 80’s in the U.S. I can’t wait to buy the next issue!

Posted by Garrett Sawyer on 22/08/07, 6:02 pm

Love the approach they take to design. Why not stir things up a bit? Their in touch with their target audience and those who feel the same as their audience. It’s fun and lively, like their audience. Good work.

Posted by cornelius on 22/08/07, 6:11 pm

Don’t read books? Short attention span? What exactly does the magazines creator think he is going to achieve by making its readers out to be so vacuous? I love The Super Super for its style, wit and the fact its such a breath of fresh air from the usual deadly serious styles of many other ’style’ magazines, and as a sixteen year old i am also part of its target readership. But i am certainly not illiterate, and i know many others who read this magazine and would find the description Slocombe gives as insulting.

Posted by Sophie Thomsett on 22/08/07, 6:13 pm

i like how it looks a lot, it is cool. but theres nothing in it. no content.
just looks.
and thats all we want. we wanna look cool.

Posted by rimmininaling on 22/08/07, 6:13 pm

they talk about “maximise the space”…. what about the bloody space, half of it is empty, some nice articles inside but use of space my arse. i love how they let gimps like “THE-O” have a page, who the fuck is the-o, some little boy with no other expression than a kinda ugly mouth wide open look, what has popular culture done to itself, wake up and if your gonna try to be different do it nicely, instead of a mash up of word art we all used in year 6. sorry for my rant but i like supersuper and can see potential, but get scared every time is open it.

ill trow a word at you and see what you can do with it…

aesthetics

use it nicely, he doesn’t like being used in andale mono or impact and garish colours don’t suit him.

thanks. x

Posted by max on 22/08/07, 6:20 pm

*shudders*

Posted by elias on 22/08/07, 6:44 pm

i love it because its not pretending to be anything its not. the guy was write talking about the short attention span of people these days. its basically like a magazine version of the internet with short soundbites, u can pick and choose want u want to read easily!

and its got content. why does content have to be long boring pretencious wank articles? super super is a breath of fresh air. id rather SEE pages of colour and fashion not someone writing extensively on their perception of it. and i like how its not gendered and doesnt exclude anyone or make the reader feel inferior.

Posted by l'ren on 22/08/07, 7:03 pm

and people complained about the London 2012 logo?!?!!,
this trend and style is just around the corner, and will be massive by 2012, its already coming up tops on the music blogs & party scene. just have a google for acid girls, discobelle or bigstereo see for yourself.
i want apple to reissue their rainbow logo!

Posted by shanemccarter on 22/08/07, 7:35 pm

frigging love the originality and direction of this magazine! i wish it was available in nyc :(

Posted by rachel gilman on 22/08/07, 8:13 pm

ok hold up…did any one notice that nu rave died a day glo death in september of last year..it was around the time that ayce moved to electroworks…it is not edgy and the fact that people still consume it is evidence of how starved we are of anything with a real edge…slocombe is malcolm mcclaren dipped in acid..what i will say in its defence is that they made something out of the nothing that is nu rave and moved it up to a public forum…but lets be honest here its nothing that wasnt going on in taboo of yester year its just not the new..the only new thing about this magazine is that they sell it in Borders… give me 10 magazine any day or the face how i mourn the face! im not writing this to be ofensive its just that super super is in my eyes blah..

Posted by Charles James basterd love child on 22/08/07, 8:59 pm

Excuse-moi to the small number of Haters out there BUT Super Super’s layout reflects the exhilarating positive energy, Hyper active Imagination AND fantastic sense of fun - the inspiring philosophies and visions of a small collective of people who endeavour To “put it out there - sans attitude” “IT” being that vital mix of all the above and more, that’s been missing from our newsagent shelves.

The simple yet intricate presentation and vibrant glow sets it aside from any other magazine. Simple because just as Slocombe says there’s a more “human” less “perfect” feel and yet there’s so much there on one page for your eyes to feast on greedily.

I am 20 and I don’t feel AT All offended by what Slocombe claims in the article, suggesting that our generation is a little less interested in literacy and a little more ADD…I agree…We are all things coffee, all things fast food, All things CONDENSED - Why do we now have the LONDON LITE? and The London paper so that we can get quick snippets of goings on without being weighed down by anything too serious! So in the Spirit of our movement I can only conclude that Super Super is paving the way (in GOLD or maybe all things NEON)for all future magazines to let down their “barriers” and Formal Pretentious people pleasing ways in exchange for something a bit more influential and unfearful towards breaking conventions… there’s nothing better than saying ” we did that first”
P.s I laugh my ass off with every edition!!!

Posted by CAPSIA Natti on 22/08/07, 11:14 pm

Well well, I see here that Super Super has finally reached the mainstream.

Now I only hope it goes out with a bang now, instead of a fizzle.

Posted by Sean on 23/08/07, 11:20 am

Fizzle, never. I’d guess it will disappear and resurface under a new guise.

Posted by Farry Fernie on 23/08/07, 11:53 am

If you hate your parents, the man or the establishment, don’t show them up by getting wasted and wrapping your car around a tree. If you really want to rebel against your parents: outearn them, outlive them, and know more than they do.

Henry Rollins

Posted by David Johnston on 23/08/07, 12:24 pm

It just looks like an eighties mag. And in theese days its considered trendy. Or it was three or four years ago, but we cant pretend graphic designers to be so updated, can we?

Posted by Dario on 23/08/07, 12:55 pm

The first time I opend Supersuper, it was like open the door to the best party ever. And when I shot the door behind me, I was filled and surrounded with happiness…still are

*K*

Posted by karolina on 23/08/07, 1:49 pm

Brody’s Face springs to mind in the top spread so not sure its as original as some people would like to think.

Posted by James Greenfield on 23/08/07, 1:58 pm

“put it out there - sans attitude” ?
That’s all this magazine has is attitude, no content or substance, like the movement it is associated with. No values, all surface. I suppose if it’s intention is to revel in the supersuperficiality of bright colours and copious amounts of drugs, then it has succeeded. But to everyone else it’s just an 80’s rehash that centres around a few obnoxious people in the east end. I like the idea of print not taking itself so seriously and it’s high time something new happened in the publishing world, but god i hope the future doesn’t look/act like this..

Posted by Missy H on 23/08/07, 5:03 pm

great concept to completely fuck things up, but couldnt it still look, yknow, nice or … good?
it should have been amazing but its bollocks

Posted by mr rockhard on 23/08/07, 5:18 pm

Boring design. Too derivative. When Wired did it all first in the mid-1990s, the look was truly creative. Now the “sticking and gluing” approach has been done to death and become a bit of a yawn.

Posted by Alan on 23/08/07, 5:22 pm

Original? Whatevs.

I recently bought my friend who collects Prince memorabilia an old cocert program from the 80s, and the grahics in them are amazing, exactly what the supersuper lot would love to be. It’s not bloody original - agree too about the Brody’s Face comment.

I like it to a degree because it’s fun, and it can’t really claim to be serious at all - but please when did people stop reading books? god! And why haven’t people realised that nu-rave was over as soon as Topshop started selling glow sticks and the sunday times featured Family and AYCE. it’s all got so boring all of a sudden. and not in the slightest bit original.

Oh… And am I the only person who’s sick of reading the same articles every month in i-D, dazed and SS? Seriously, if i read one more article about the same people and how mind numbingly cool they all are i’ll get sick all over their glossy 150 gsm.

SuperSuper though, thumbs up from me for just a bit of fun - this rant was more of a general magazine rant. soz

Posted by hmmmm on 23/08/07, 5:35 pm

there’s nothing to this magazine, every issue is exactly the same and just as pointless

Posted by j on 23/08/07, 5:44 pm

Reminds me a lot of the London-based OZ circa 1969.

Alex Mac

Posted by Alex McKenna on 23/08/07, 5:46 pm

Super super is almost as super as my nan!We love the mag beacasue its exciting to look at and not conforming to safe coours or boring layouts…it looks like iwhat they include they are truely passionate about..myneon glo i the dark hat goes off to them!its mot about being like all the others its bout rocking you own style for you not anyone else chchchcheck us at myspace.com/bantumuk for clothing that will make you feel supersuper!love berny bANTUM

Posted by bANTUM Clothing on 23/08/07, 6:45 pm

i think super super is just SUPER!! :) :)

Posted by ella on 23/08/07, 7:44 pm

SUPER SUPER IS SUPER WICKED!

Posted by paul on 23/08/07, 8:36 pm

I FORGOT 2 ADD www.ktandpaul.com

Posted by paul on 23/08/07, 8:38 pm

At Sleazenation Slocombe rode on the coat tails of Scott King, and it makes me shudder to think that he can take credit for any (critical) success the magazine achieved during that time. After King’s departure the magazine went into terminal decline, culminating in the atrocious, disastrous final issue of Slocombe’s reign (as mentioned in the article). It truly was a shocker - a ham fisted pastiche of the tabloid press.

Some of the comments from ‘the yoof’ on this page - not wanting to be bogged down by ‘anything too serious’ - do not bode well for the future. I think the reason why The Face, and the hay days of i-D and Sleazenation are remembered so fondly are because they weren’t always just about surface, there was often a deeper cultural and social awareness. One of King’s most famous Sleaze covers featured a large arrow in which read ‘I’m with stupid’ - no doubt pointing at the likes of Super Super.

Posted by Damo on 23/08/07, 10:46 pm

If your looking for a magazine that really represents young London, this is it. I’m in my late twenties now and I would of loved to of had a magazine like this when I was in my teens.

In the latest edition, the new editor has given more flow to the magazine and I feel it will grow more and more with each issue. It was nice to see a different angle on the styling in the last issue and it proved it is not all about NU Rave.

They seem like a fun crowd and I imagine they would be cool to hang out with actually.

People who leave negative comments are usually rival magazines or obviously jealous of the magazines and Slocombe’s success. I mean who can say they own a pretty cool magazine in th 00’s, was editor of THE coolest magazine in the 90’s, worked with a pretty amazing (and famous) photographer and freelance writes for The Sunday Times Style. Enough said.

Posted by Hayley on 23/08/07, 10:50 pm

I’m not sure what to make of it, but it sure gets people sticking thier comments in! As for OZ well I was ‘around then’ and flogging IT (that was not about PCs) in ‘68 and we all had some fun poking at the eye of the establishment! Now everyone takes it all TOO seriously. If they had fun making it and the readers buy it, good on ya!
Like to look a hard copy before I give the royal apro.

Posted by BC on 23/08/07, 10:56 pm

Boring and derivative? Don’t think so, but yeah, Super Super is always going to get comments like that because it’s a catalyst for throwing all your insecurities right up into your own face… in 72 dpi… even tho’ it IS printed! F**k it, we bought a bagful of ride tokens and we’re having a great time! Or as Marilyn Manson might put it (’cos it ain’t all about nu-rave) “We love the abuse because it makes us feel like we are needed”

Posted by REBECCA AND MIKE on 23/08/07, 11:24 pm

SuperSuper is the most badly designed magazine on the market today. It looks like a child has cut and pasted the limited content, which generally consists of text speak and pixellated pictures. Every issue is the same with their Shoreditch chums in every edition, so bad many London stores give it away for free. Who the hell do Slocombe and Bolle think they are McLaren and Westwood?!

Posted by SUPER JOURNALIST on 24/08/07, 2:22 am

SuperSuper evidently causes a lot of interest, concern, comment, raised eyebrows, smiles, jokes, gets a load of disparate people of different ages talking, agreeing, arguing, falling out, making comparisons, whipping out their history books for want of something to say & bashing nails into the coffin of poor old Nu Rave…
i reckon that’s quite an achievement for such a colourful & light hearted pamphlet, a mere 8 issues old.

Of course SuperSuper doesn’t adhere to all the correct rules of graphic design carpentry & photoshop etiquette, but then who makes up & polices all these tiresome rules anyway?!
Influences & comparisons can always be drawn between past titles & decades (The Face?! yawn), as they always can be if that’s all your interested in looking for, but at the moment SuperSuper looks noticeably different on the news stand next to all the other papery things, it’s amusing, bright & frantic cover to cover, and right now it makes a lot of other mags look rather stuffy, academic & out of sync.
Clever SuperSuper!

PS. SleazeNation was never 4th to i-D, Dazed & The Face! no Way!!… At the time Steve & Namalee were first cutting their teeth at Sleaze, The Face was on its last legs, i-D had lost its way completely, & Dazed was … well i don’t know what Dazed was cos i never bought it.
What actually happened was that Fashion Mags became collectively boring, Sleaze saw its chance & rammed a wedge in the doorway causing a diversion, and while no-one else was looking SuperSuper cleverly leapt over the top using Blow as a decoy.
Genius.
i-D’s in hot pursuit tho & is looking pretty useful…

Posted by Professor Julian Roberts on 24/08/07, 2:54 am

who were The Face?

Posted by j-p.sartre on 24/08/07, 3:02 am

Oi im feeling this mag first time i have heard of it! Looks like you got some music up on it, try get me in the next issue init!??
saaaafe
lele xx

www.lelespeaks.com

Posted by lele on 24/08/07, 12:27 pm

Dear Readers - please don’t believe that Steve Slocombe was influenced by me. However, I do wish him well and can see that he’s doing someting that he wants to do. I’m just waiting for Countdown to come on telly and often spend the first part of the day Googling my own name. This may be my last ‘Self-Google’. Scott King.

Posted by Scott King on 24/08/07, 1:00 pm

I know plenty of 14-24 year olds that do read, don’t have ADD, and can appreciate incisive social commentary, but that’s beside the point I suppose if you’re a creative director that can’t. Supersuper is not cutting edge, it’s safe risk taking-the high impact nature of it’s art direction serves to draw attention to a lack of any real innovation and experimentation. Strapping a teddy bear to a 35 year old staff member’s head and drawing on her face is not innovative, it’s desperate.

Posted by Alex Edwards on 24/08/07, 1:13 pm

Of course the SuperSuper is not adept at giving ’social commentary’ (I can only imagine its editorial team giving a huge sigh of relief at that one!) and it may not be er..grammatically correct, but then isn’t that exactly the point? Its’ readers can get that from a broadsheet or the Economist. Who said it lacked cultural awareness? Are you blind?!! Just go to Camden or check out the myspace sites for some of this crowd (I’d say its cultural awareness is its major selling point). And I don’t think the Face or ID ever aimed at the same audience, or had anything like a similar objective.
It is about light-hearted, good humoured FUN!! How can you criticize its design by having a go at the content? And how can you have a go at the content for not being something it isn’t meant to be in the first place? Would you criticize the National Inquirer for its lack of fashion content, or Smash Hits magazine for not containing enough about global politics?
It IS funny, although admittedly its humour may be hard to ‘get’ if you haven’t been around that scene, and lets face it not many 30-something Guardian reading graphic designers have (but my guess is SS don’t care too much about you!!!)
It IS new and innovative - how many style mags for 14-24 yr olds contain the hippest of London’s fashion scene, the coolest new bands and are able to communicate it all in an unintimidating, fun and positive way? Anything that says its ok to have rainbow hair/be overweight/be different/be nerdy/be gorgeous and encourages its readers that positivity and open-mindedness is COOL has to be better than the depressing alternative drivel out there for this age group which shovels images of celebs looking like crap and vilifying them for it, criminalizes people for having cellulite/weird boobs/not wearing standard high-street accepted style.. and instead promoting the image that non-conformity to the mainstream makes you a freak..I could go on!
MOSTLY though, I think that the comments above speak for themselves. Firstly because those that count, i.e. its target audience - love it. Those who don’t tend to shoot themselves in the foot by slagging it off for being something it isn’t trying to be in the first place, they are missing the point. Teddy bears strapped to ones head?… oh come on, you have to smile just a little bit even at the thought of it!!..unless life really is that bad. It’s about irony - and irony makes you think, instead of just accepting without question… isn’t that a good thing? Secondly, the point is optimism, and the unnecessary bitchiness towards the creators of this mag is all about negativity - which simply reinforces how needed this type of mag is- and indeed the subculture it represents. To be critically analytical is one thing - to slag of the founders for thinking they are ‘Westwood and McClaren’ - it’s a bit OTT and frankly, irrelevant. Comments like that prove that SuperSuper is doing its job. It is pointing two fingers up at pretentious creatives who like to congratulate themselves on their knowledge of cool. I mean please, Westwood and McLaren? I’m pretty sure that reference was made several years ago. I think these guys deserve more credit. What is sad is that those who are intimidated by youth/colour/cool/Shoreditch are channelling that into criticism for what is a new and exciting approach to print-form.

P.S, although conscious of my age, I have never felt intimidated by members of this subculture, despite not being a part of the ’scene’.. and I have NEVER seen ‘copious amount of drugs’ surrounding it either. That you get from the more widely subscribed to, mainstream hangouts frequented by a more mature crowd. The same crowd who - put simply - DO exclude and intimidate, if only by their sheer narrow-minded cynicism of just about everything, including new forms of art and communication.

Posted by Kate E on 24/08/07, 5:55 pm

Hello!? Super Super is edited by 40+ bronzed oldies in neon lycra - get over it! total rubbish. unpleasant to look at, tedious to read (if you call tying a twenty word paragraph into a sentence: reading) and hideous to experience. there is zero effort applied to the magazine. if we keep on with this lazy self deprecating ironic attitude then 20 years from now a ‘great magazine’ might as well be a roll of Netto loo roll smeared with shit. Lets apply some creative thinking and an objective attitude to what we write about - that is what a magazine is supposed to be about. As for slapping pictures of the editor [content deleted by moderator] on the cover, my god, how disgusting, nothing can save us now. I must say now, the only magazine I have read recently that embodies a true voice and attitude that reflects both the attitude of the young and the aspiratons of those with more than 2 brain cells to rub together: is Disorder magazine. I doubt any of you have heard of it, but really, try some research and you shall be rewarded.

Super Super - Tosh Tosh
x

Posted by SUPER JOURNALIST on 24/08/07, 10:42 pm

One more thing, how many of the positive comments are from employees and associates of the magazine. Prof Julian Roberts is affliated with them, and Kate E, is your E short for England? hmmmm ……

They have only managed to produce eight issues in two and a half years. If your POP magazine thats fabulous, but this is supossed to be a monthly publication!

Posted by SUPER JOURNALIST on 25/08/07, 12:33 pm

It’s a little surprising no one has mentioned the long and established history of fanzines of which Super Super is an obvious product.

I think a lot of the criticism aimed at Super Super is simply because it’s a poor relation to those early cut and paste amateur publications, and the sense that Steve and Namalee are simply canny media operators re-hashing what’s gone before.

I have no problem whatsoever with Super Super or the people behind it, only with it being hailed as something new, or ground breaking. Maybe it’s a sign of just how dire much of the the mainstream media has become that Super Super garners so much attention?

Posted by Damo on 25/08/07, 1:03 pm

Loud, bright, look at me, montage, weird layouts, nice lighting. Works for me.

Posted by Frasay on 25/08/07, 3:54 pm

it’s good to see Disorder Mags fashion editor upholding “creative thinking and an objective attitude to what we write about”, from behind her myspaz pseudonym.

Posted by SUPER JEALOUSY ? on 25/08/07, 5:02 pm

ah ha ha ha ha! Yeah you’ve got me there Russell/Julian. The layout of the mag has always been a real bone of contention for me, the idea of an article praising the art direction was always going to ruffle my feathers.

Posted by SUPER JOURNALIST a.k.a. Gemma Winter from Disorder on 25/08/07, 8:00 pm

we love toys, colours and big letters ABC when we were young, and then people just grown up and forgot about everything else except sex, drugs, money, booze, chicks and men… then it came nu rave then Super Super with the simplest ideas to just have a little fun with colours, parties and yeah, nu kids on da blocks. So, why reject it?

colours, smileys, crazy kids, parties, music… don’t we all love em???

Posted by illkidd on 25/08/07, 11:14 pm

slocombes comments make so much sense. super super has a massive style punch that no other magazine at the minute has.

bravooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by lux4trip on 26/08/07, 7:16 pm

There is a lot of content in SuperSuper but most of it isn’t printed on the page.

The thing that I find fascinating and exciting about this magazine is the way that it naturally and internally relates to other media in the same way its audience does. If you read a music review, you go online to listen to the track. Hear about an interesting designer, you google them and look at their stuff.

A lot of SuperSuper’s content is in the way that the magazine prompts the reader to go to myspace etc. to find out more, either by actually supplying the link or by just assuming that the reader will google it themselves.

And yes, Wired was the first print magazine to take cues from the net. But SuperSuper is the first STYLE magazine to do so. It’s the first time that it’s been tacitly acknowledged that what happens online is now at least as interesting from a culture standpoint as what happens on stages, in clubs and at fashion shows.

Finally, editorially, the point above about it being open and inclusive is spot on. The general reader out-take of i-D is that the things written about within are a closed, distant world that the reader can never hope to be a part of, only emulate (by buying stuff, naturally). SuperSuper on the other hand, despite the huge quantity of product placement etc. still manages to make it feel as if the world it writes about is an accessible, DiY one. and that’s exactly why its tone is so appealing and so superior to the one that most magazines strike.

Posted by Jacob Wright on 27/08/07, 6:07 am

SuperSuper is fun and enjoyably amateurish, but not innovative. It looks like old issues of i-D and The Face from the Eighties, but fails to add anything visually new or genuinely orginal to the proceedings. Supersuper has altered very little since its launch, and is now starting to look and feel quite formulaic and repetetive, in particular the fashion editorial.

Sleazenation was an exciting and innovative magazine, that was until Slocombe took over as Editor. After that, as anyone involved in the business of publishing style magazines knows, the circulation began to fall and advertisers began to pull out. The final issue, to which Slocombe refers, was actually so embarrasingly witless and clumsy that the publishers promtly closed the magazine down!

Posted by Sarah M on 27/08/07, 7:08 pm

namalee and niyi love and adoration in print monthly.amazingly fresh and unique its not.more of a ongoing joke.

Posted by shoreditch twat on 28/08/07, 8:14 am

ok im REALLY BORED NOW

Posted by Rich on 28/08/07, 10:47 am

I love it and am a monthly subscriber!But i have wondered how the mag will develop and change with the death of new rave, i noticed this issue you can see a development into something…..maybe a bit new grave?? or at least not strictly new rave only!

I think you hit something with it, keep it going and embrace the change ……x

Posted by ellie la rocc on 28/08/07, 11:41 am

Nu-Grave doesn’t even exist! It’s an in joke that got out of hand, started by friends of mine. Although Fran from i-D seems to think it’s the next big thing - ho hum!

Ellie, you’re right tho, i do wonder what will happen post nu rave.

Posted by gemma winter -disorder on 28/08/07, 3:41 pm

I love Super Super!

Posted by Nigel Carlos on 28/08/07, 5:24 pm

I’m neither for nor against the layout of this mag. It seems to be doing what it sets out to pretty well.

However it does seem rather erroneous that a printed magazine of any kind be hailed as ‘cutting edge’; a point that Slocombe has been allowed to gloss over in the interview above. The format — as he seems to acknowledge — says much more about the history of his work than about the target market.

I have nothing against print and nothing against the design of Super Super per se. It’s a great thing that magazines like it exist to challenge the mainstream with their presentation. What’s not so great is that they’re the same thing that has been presented as New since the Face and i-D came on the scene more than 20 years ago.

Posted by Daithi on 28/08/07, 5:27 pm

Loud Colours + Fun Fashion + Mad Music = Supersuper

WHAT’S THERE NOT TO LIKE?

Supersuper is the best thing to happen to street culture magazine for a very very long time, and you know it is going to reach cult status from the get-go.

I esp love the collaged-styled fashion - it’s sheer loony genius!!!!

Posted by Bobby on 30/08/07, 12:43 pm

I really enjoy reading super super it is like eating pure sugar and have a quick but satisfying rush. The people who work at the mag are all lovely with a genuine passion for youth culture and all things connected. Every kid I know seems to enjoy flicking through it and I love the positive energy the magazine spreads. The magazine also gives all sorts of new peoplein the industry a chance (photographers, writers, stylists, hair dressers, makeup artists and makes stars of the new kids on the scene) I think that this is really important as many of the style fash mags that are out there do not even respond to emails or calls from any of the new kids that would like the oportunity to contribute. It is not pretending to be anything that it is not which is refreshing and honest. Super Super take it or leave it. Love it or hate it.

Posted by georgina graham on 31/08/07, 1:39 pm

I don’t know why people keep comparing it to The Face, it’s nothing like it. What it looks like is early I-D magazine which had a similar thrown-together, photocopied look (only back then it was real photocopies)

Posted by LondonLee on 31/08/07, 3:08 pm

Georgina: you need RITALIN - and so does Super Super. Namalee and all your ilk: please wither away into a small pile of Spongebob sludge. you will NOT be re-recycled.

Posted by simonsezfuckoffnurave on 31/08/07, 10:34 pm

I think the ‘cutting-edge’ needs a little sharpening.

Posted by Mace. V. on 03/09/07, 3:17 am

It does what it says on the tin.
It perfectly sums up the scene, don’t forget we are now a generation born of the MTV generation, trends have a much shorter life span now because of the speed we receive our information- you get in on a Monday and by Tuesday morning there are the pictures of your night out (or Thursday if your waiting for Billa)
Which is another good point- out of all the photographers we have documenting the East he is by far and away the best, an artist as opposed to the lucky pap’s out there, and he is a contributer, so I think SS may just be onto something here…don’t dismiss or fear something because its Nu, whatever that Nu is.

Posted by KeeleyAmanda on 03/09/07, 10:57 am

Just because we are the MTV generation doesn’t mean were stupid and cant retain information! As for that arguement its not The Guardian (ie SS is full of grammar and spelling errors) it’s just a load of crap really, anyone who’s ever picked up a copy will know even the Guardian is lax on that front - whats important is the infomation content! SuperSuper has about as much as a toilet wall!

Posted by Posedtodeath on 04/09/07, 4:01 am

So, SuperSuper has about as much content as a toilet wall? I believe you have just made a point in favour of the magazine. Don’t know about you, but I always read the stuff on toilet walls whilst I’m having a shit. They’re a ‘must-read’. Infact, is there anyone who does NOT avidly read toilet wall graffiti?

Posted by Pablo Picasso on 04/09/07, 11:59 am

Toilet walls are fun to read - although SuperSuper’s toilet cubile wall would just be covered in excrement and cartoon drawings of cocks

Posted by Posedtodeath on 04/09/07, 2:22 pm

Aren’t they all?! LOL Those were included in the ones I was talking about. Have you met my friend Marcel Duchamp?!

Posted by Pablo Picasso on 04/09/07, 4:57 pm

In response to simonsezfuckoffnurave, who places conmments to people but is too much of a coward to leave his real name. I like Super Super. I like Namalee and I like all the kids that work at the magazine. I am not an old or new raver and I certainly do not have a thing for sponge bob. I do not need to take ritalin but I have a list for you below that may be able to help you as you do not seem to be a very nice, positive or stable person or for that matter someone to reccomend prescription drugs. I hope this may be of some help. Georgina Graham.
(p.s I feel that the root of Simon’s problem lies at the bottom of my help list)

www.samaritans.org Confidential emotional support 24 hours a day
http://positivesharing.com/2006/07/what-makes-people-unhappy-at-work/
http://breggin.com/ritalin.html For Ritalin pushers
http://selfhelpdaily.com For People Who Hate
http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/news/20070601/small-penis-syndrome-common

Posted by georgina graham on 04/09/07, 5:31 pm

Georgina: yes, those comments made to you were ridiculous. Infact, lets get it straight, even if soemone does need or take ritalin, this is no slur on them. Infact, the negative comments on this board simply reinforce the entire raison-d’etre of SuperSuper, and at the same time show that SuperSuper, rather like the concepts articulated in The Cluetrain Manifesto, are something you either ‘get’ or ‘don’t get’, which is quite funny seeing that a) SuperSuper has a clear relationship to the internet, and b) this board is part of the conversational marketplace The Cluetrain Manifesto championed. Of course, most people ignore trashy comments (although on the toilet-wall issue I did feel compelled to point out that the so-called meaningful content-driven intellectual high ground can in no way be taken by people who can’t even get the basic concept of analogy correct).

Posted by Pablo Picasso on 04/09/07, 6:41 pm

i feel the force of Steve Slocolme is strong in Pablo Picasso.
(That’s a phrase i’ve never before turned)

Posted by Darth Vader on 04/09/07, 9:43 pm

I can guarantee you are wrong. I am my own man (or woman!)

Posted by Pablo Picasso on 05/09/07, 8:44 am

All the bits I used to love about The Face but in a day-glo, mashed-up package. Super Super indeed.

Posted by Kathryn McLaughlin on 06/09/07, 11:02 am

Thanks for the tip Georgina, and your googling skills are to be commended. I especially enjoyed the last one. You’re pretty much set up for a career as a Glenda Slagg or Polly Filler in an Observer supplement. But then you’re probably not a journo, just a jaded rich-kid-turned-thirty year-old hipster/PR ninny/fashion ‘consultant’ with a soft spot for luvvieland: where everyone knows your name. You put your name up because, just like the folks at SS who splash themselves on the cover, you can’t resist a bit of cheap self-publicity - thank god for the world wide web. Go sista.

Posted by simonseztouché on 06/09/07, 5:33 pm

i think that georgina posting her name was more about ‘accountability’ than ‘cheap self-publicity’, and as a participant in this conversation i was actually dissapointed her name does not link to more information about her; i guess what i’m saying is; isn’t it a shame her posts didn’t include any cheap self-publicity. contextualizing comments is often a useful thing to be able to do, and on a board like this a weblink partially makes up (granted inadequately) for the additional information got about someone when having a face-to-face conversation. the only contextualization of ’simonsays’ that i can personally make are that he (or she) is someone who lets their own prejudicies create some sort of antagonistic tunnel-vision. me? oh i’m the guy who invented cubism. you know all about me already. ’simonsays’, your parting shot was ‘thank god for the world wide web. go sista’ are you sure this comment isn’t more informed by your own actions? i mean, the anonymity of the web is what allows you to make the comments you do. thank god for the world wide web. go brotha! it’s not like you’d ever speak to georgina like that in real life is it? you would? poor you.
back to the subject under discussion though: SuperSuper. i haven’t this much fun since my blue period!

Posted by Pablo Picasso on 06/09/07, 7:14 pm

Picasso ‘inventing’ cubism, it was a movement that came about from Picasso and the fauvists you twit. And even then it was inspired by sculpture, late Cezanne and the huge trend of French artists breaking up the canvas, pointillism and divisionism being early ‘neo’ examples. It was never ‘invented’. Developed from, yes. Invented, no. And yes, getting back to Super Super, its not worth spilling any more words over. Its not like the people who gawp at those pages want to read anything anyway.

Posted by simonsezpoppycock on 07/09/07, 12:55 am

LOL! Like my comments about Picasso (which included me inferring I am actually him) were EVER going to be factually correct! (He died a few years back.) You’re clearly trying to prove something; it’s just that I don’t know what.
And then you tell us SuperSuper is not worth spilling any more words over, and you do that by, err, spilling more words about SuperSuper.
LOL! SuperSuper, you certainly rattled a few cages by getting in Creative Review like you did, and well, just existing. Good on you. Can we have a CassettePlaya pull-out poster sometime soon? I’d love to have one on my wall (to gawp at).

Posted by Pablo Picasso on 07/09/07, 6:00 pm

some meanies on here. long live super super.

Posted by daisy on 09/09/07, 2:51 am

Super Super show was great and party too at LFW. FGirst time I saw the magazine and have to admit was impressed. Either that or drunk!

Posted by james M on 20/09/07, 3:01 pm

it’s a cheap tacky magazine with no good fashion spreadz and ugly people. It’s something a 4 year old creates. non- interesting articles, get better people, writers,editors!!!! and stlye mayyyyte!
x

Posted by maz on 15/10/07, 7:15 pm

Super Super is cool as fuck and has the balls not to give a shit about what you think.

Posted by dance diva on 18/12/07, 1:17 am

i must say i was a little upset that i had to wait so long for the most recent issue of SuperSuper to come out, but i can say it was well worth the wait. the new bi-monthly perfect bound format is great, and the content is up there too. and hey, i wasn’t too upset about the wait because during this period of forced-upon-me-ascetism i realised that my thirst for regularly commoditized delivery was actually driven by some conformist tendancy/expectation lurking somewhere in my back-brain. your mag is quite disorderly, i like that, so i realised that if it was too regular (=predictable) then that would be an unwelcome contradiction. so, here’s looking forward to a few more weird times between issues. glad the Picasso family connection could help get you your first ever ‘cover boy’. ;-) yeah!

Posted by Pablo Picasso on 19/12/07, 6:27 pm

Super Super is great designed. I love it. Nothing more to say.

Posted by Marcel on 07/01/08, 2:04 pm

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